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Post by Matthew "Sash" Lenahan on May 5, 2012 9:42:58 GMT -5
Here are my questions:
Chelsea: Why are you so insecure with your own game play that you pushed Erik to win? There was only one chance to get him out, you ended up going back on it, and now you're against him in the finals. Do you feel confident being up against this man who controlled every vote and won almost every immunity? And also, what game moves did you make this game that Erik had very little influence in? Why do you deserve to win over him?
Erik: Your competitive and strategic gameplay is very impressive. However, your social game play is not. You entered this game with pre-made alliances, and near the ended of the game, you became a very personal player. You appeared very condescending and acted like a douchebag. Why did you make all of these bitter comments and actions? Do you believe your competitive and strategic gameplay should rise above the fact you've acted like a dick, and came into this game with people already helping you out-a privilege that the rest of us did not have, and yet, got far into the game without them whereas you got far with them?
I will not be voting bitterly, even though my questions appear so. I'm simply trying to get into your brains to find out why each of you acted the ways you did, and whether or not a non-competive, UTR strategy should win against a competive, yet dictatorial gameplay.
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Post by chelsea on May 5, 2012 15:37:37 GMT -5
Chelsea: Why are you so insecure with your own game play that you pushed Erik to win?
Actually I'm not insecure with my game play and I'm not pushing Erik to win. I'd love to win actually, I think I deserve to win just as much as Erik does...
There was only one chance to get him out, you ended up going back on it, and now you're against him in the finals. Do you feel confident being up against this man who controlled every vote and won almost every immunity?
And actually I didn't go back on it the time we wanted to get him out. We had the votes set and you made the mistake of going to Diane asking her to vote out Erik, Diane was Erik's pre-game and Diane went and told Erik.. Erik then made a HUGE chat with everyone having them to change their votes from Greg to you so it was pretty much your fault.. About me feeling confident not 100% confident but I decided at the end of the day to put friendships before game. I didn't take Erik he took me to the finals and that's because we never made a pre-game we just told each other hour 1 that we're going to the final 2..
And also, what game moves did you make this game that Erik had very little influence in?
Voting out Diane who was Erik's Pre-game alliance the move some people are like why'd I do it? Well I had made relations with Greg & Benry and I was actually thinking of this spot right here.. I was thinking of what was best for me.... Because I didn't play personally I didn't say "I hate him so let's vote him out" which Erik has been doing since Day 1.. I've always wanted to make that move to get Erik out. He was PISSED! Like who goes against Erik? I do cause I wasn't afraid of him but because you went and told Diane about the whole trying to get him out we couldn't do it.
Why do you deserve to win over him?
Because the only reason why he controlled the votes was cause he had a pregame alliance and everyone pretty much knew him and I didn't have a pregame alliance where I knew everyone playing and I didn't play this game with a personal vanteda (however it's spelt) against anyone. I played trying to get to know everyone but ultimately Erik kept telling me that he wanted to go the finals with me.
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Post by Matthew "Sash" Lenahan on May 5, 2012 16:03:46 GMT -5
Thank you, Chelsea
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Post by Erik Reichenbach on May 5, 2012 18:14:27 GMT -5
My answers will be up later tonight, as I am currently working a double.
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Post by Erik Reichenbach on May 6, 2012 1:13:35 GMT -5
Erik: Your competitive and strategic gameplay is very impressive.
Thank You!
However, your social game play is not. You entered this game with pre-made alliances, and near the ended of the game, you became a very personal player. You appeared very condescending and acted like a douchebag. Why did you make all of these bitter comments and actions?
I touched on this briefly in a past tribal council, but allow me to elaborate.
Not one move I made this game was personal. Everything I did was planned out for what would get me to the end. Whether it was eliminating a challenge threat, or social threat, it was based on what would get me further in the game. If it came off as something personal, then it came out the wrong way, I can strategically justify every move I made this game.
As for the "Pregame", The org community is quite tight knit. When people don't play alias, or only play half alias, you are bound to recognize some of them, and pre-existing relationships exist. I knew a lot more people then Diane at the start of this game. I knew Kim, John, Christine, Michael, Stacy, Troyzan, Kat, Erinn, Diane, Greg and Chelsea. I have relationships with all of them. However, It just so happened that Diane would be the best ally I had all game.
As for the condescending and d-bag comment, I really don't feel like I was, I tried my best to be very cordial with everyone. For Example, At Final 5 when we were going to vote out Greg, I told him we were voting for him, Or at F3 right before the challenge, I wished Benry good luck.
Do you believe your competitive and strategic gameplay should rise above the fact you've acted like a dick, and came into this game with people already helping you out-a privilege that the rest of us did not have, and yet, got far into the game without them whereas you got far with them?
Again, I don't feel like I acted that way, I certainly enjoyed our conversations from the beginning of the game, and throughout, even though they became few and far between, I never thought I was rude to you, or acted nastily, If you could tell me imparticularly what you are referencing then maybe I would better understand.
Anyway Sashy, Good luck With your Decision
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